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[-]pumpkin0(+2|-2)

With the paywall removed: https://archive.is/20260209101355/https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/09/opinion/libertarians-trump-limit-power.html

I don't agree with a word of it. Libertarians helped elect Trump, both times.

Libertarian politicians always vote with the Republicans. Every damn time. Libertarians are just like Republicans in their promotion of deregulation, so that their corporate donors can fuck over the 99% in every sector. They're frauds. (I appreciate that there are some users here who philosophically appreciate the principles of libertarianism and less government overreach, which sounds nice, but in practice you can see that they always side with Republicans, which fuck over the 99%.)

[-]LarrySwinger0(0|0)

If deregulation intrinsically fucks over the 99%, then what do you appreciate about the presence of libertarians here?

[-]noshore4me0(0|0)

Any data to back up the assertion they "always vote with the Republicans"?

[-]pumpkin0(0|0)

Libertarian politicians are Republicans. There is no functioning Libertarian party in the 2-party system. Of course they vote Republican. Scroll down the page here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_(United_States)

The job of the "libertarian" Republican is to get 'independent voters' to vote Republican when they really don't want to vote for Republicans. 60% of the votes cast for Libertarian candidates came from Independents, with 30% coming from Republicans and 10% from Democrats. https://split-ticket.org/2023/04/26/the-libertarian-effect

Libertarians are literally Republicans, but try to convince people that they are somehow the choice for independent voters (though they vote Republican every time).

For more information, look at the solid support from EVERY Republican (& their "libertarians") for thier favorite bills. Look also at the results of deregulation in every sector. Libertarian politicians in the US are traitors and frauds to anyone who thinks they will not vote with their party (GOP).

Search: us libertarian politician voting record

[-]noshore4me1(+1|0)

That's a lot of words to say you don't have the data.

[-]pumpkin0(0|0)

So you're just wasting our time? Got it.

The Republicans' Heritage Foundation tracks its gimps' progress, and of course are very happy that Rand Paul has voted 90% of the time to support Republican positions: https://heritageaction.com/scorecard/members/P000603/117

https://www.billtrack50.com/legislatordetail/16088

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Rand_Paul

[-]noshore4me0(0|0)

Rand Paul is literally a member of the Republican party, of course he would vote R. If you don't have data on libertarians and their votes, just admit you were talking out of your ass and we can move on.

I would imagine you're having so much trouble with finding the data because there hasn't been a libertarian politician on the national level in a few years now. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Libertarian_Party_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States

[-]pumpkin0(0|0)

You insist on wasting our time. Why? You've been given every bit of information you require and any additional information you know you can find in a second. Libertarian politicians have always failed as legislators and have almost always voted with Republicans. Everyone who wants to know about Libertarians will be able to know that a Libertarian is a Republican.

[-]newJiminy-1(+1|-2)

Not a true libertarian if voting for trump or gop

[-]pumpkin-1(0|-1)