It's interesting how those with the highest level of tribalism would dislike Israel because they scrounge off of our tax dollars, aren't us so shouldn't be in a position to do so, and displace our representatives' interest in serving the primary group they are supposed to represent.

And people who are anti-tribalists would dislike Israel because they pursue a brutal us vs them system of governance lacking any morality besides, "If it is good for us then it is good."

Which means that there is no one on any level of the specrum from the middle to the absolute extremes that would naturally support Israel, if it weren't for manufactured ideology. And it isn't manufactured to benefit you.

It makes me think about a pyramid of ideology. We have the four corners of political belief. Those are all people who believe something. They have their reasons to have their view. And then you have the middle. What is the ideological premise of the middle. It's really just going along with what they are told. So the third dimension is how manufactured your beliefs are. Maybe the four corners aren't really on the groud. But the middle is pulled up. The middle supports Israel. The middle supports the Fed. The middle can actually believe things no one in the four corners would because the four corners come to their conclusions through some thought processes. And there is no reasonable thought process that would come to these conclusions that a Christian country should support jewish people carpet bombing children, or that we should let banks print unlimited money themselves.