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[-]x0x71(+1|0)

Liberty is taken, not granted.

I don't mean that in that they take liberty, even though they do. I'm saying you should take liberty for yourself.

[-]RickSanchez1(+2|-1)

Liberty and Freedom come from the God of Nature.

[-]JasonCarswell3(+3|0)

Or just the Natural Law of existence without any gods.

[-]RickSanchez1(+1|0)

Right, because the universe came from nothing?

[-]JasonCarswell2(+2|0)

Right, because comforting made-up stories actually explain everything?

Mere tiny mortals can't fathom nor need to understand how the Universe exists.
Sure it's nice when some good theories come up, but certainty is folly.

[-]xoenix2(+2|0)

If you believe in the "God of Nature" then you believe the universe is its own cause. (See Spinoza.)